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- 14.05.2005, 07:10. valex в теме
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... while both units were withdrawn from waffenss and enrolled in vlasov s russian army no mention about...
- 12.05.2005, 09:05. valex в теме
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... state police bodyguard structure was so good and it is enrolled so many people himmler wanted to compete with the state army generals for public power he was clever enough do not do that in public he learned from the sa example you know for this reason his armored forces get name waffen-ss and supposed to be used as an army reserve and sometime to serve as concentration camps guards on rotation base only at that time waffenss at the beginning adolf hitler standard das grosse deutschland standard das reich and totenkopf and leibstandard were not super army as the world learned at the wwii the 1st battle experience of waffenss was in 1938 at france they did show of themselves as brave but completely out of military training soldiers wermacht was much better equipped and better trained that time the division adolf hitler the only ss men participated at france invasion destroyed catholic churches and did shot of few the uk s pows the 1st international crime committed by the ss men they did not show of themselves as battlefield soldiers himmler learned the lesson and shortly his armored forces became the best soldiers ever you know the price for his men army training himmler sold slave human labor for german industry for cheap and his organization bought any military supply by discounted prices and get priority to buy military supply even before wermacht waffenss became better equipped and better budgeted then wermacht but that was war time and really bad time to compete with wermacht generals for political power waffenss became army reserve till 1944 to 1940 waffenss got serious loses not bigger loses then wermacht did but that was significant for the ss organization the waffenss started to recruit foreigners the viking is the division recruited in belgium dutch etc southeast europe did follow never ever were national conflicts inside the ss at least between west european soldiers from the 1st training people learned everyone is an equal for the ss i saw the ss veteran from holland who was a commander of multinational units including german officers one of the most important requirement to people at the ss was a comradeship i specifically did a search for national conflicts in the ss i do not know about even single case the comradeship was one of the strongest feature of the elite german army as the waffenss used to be inside waffenss were georgia battalion armenia battalion azerbaijan battalion ukranian and even uzbek battalions all baltic republics gifted to the ss by legion russia was represented by vlasov s army i did not see any internal ss documents about the ss units from former ussr citizens normally commanders of all units were german officers but with time and with heavy loses everything was mixed around to make the distinguish between international ss troops into official names were included for one more word the standards with major aryan men received a word freiwilligen those units that contained a high percentage of non-germanic personnel carried the designation waffen- within their names that is probably why you decide waffenss is for non-germanic divisions only when you use official name like some -waffen-grenadier-division-ss means that division is mainly from non-germans you may use waffenss word to call all himmler armored forces and that is correct way to say waffenss was a convenient military organization for the ss needs because of its political nature the ss enrolled of anyone requirements had been changed with...